The Business of Marketing

Welcome to The Business of Marketing, the podcast that dives deep into the minds of B2B marketing leaders. Join us as we explore innovative strategies and approaches to B2B marketing, with a laser focus on driving demand and growth. Every episode we sit down with industry pioneers to uncover insights that can transform your marketing game. Whether you’re looking to refine your strategy or just searching for inspiration, this is where you’ll find the expertise to elevate your business. Tune in and let’s decode the business of marketing together.

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Episodes

4 days ago

John Horsley is joined by Maor Sadra, CEO & Co-Founder of INCRMNTAL, to explore why marketing must move beyond clicks and attribution to measure true business value. A candid conversation on incrementality, leadership, and the future of marketing ROI.

4 days ago

Andrew Bialecki, Co-CEO and Co-Founder of Klaviyo, joins John Horsley on The Business of Marketing to explore how consumer CRM is evolving in the age of AI. From bootstrapping to IPO, Andrew shares lessons on autonomy, product-led growth, and the rise of agentic commerce.

Friday Dec 12, 2025

Leon Harlow, Group Commercial Director at YMU, breaks down how the creator economy is reshaping entertainment, talent and brand partnerships. He explains why community and trust now beat pure reach, how YouTube has become the new pilot stage for TV, and what brands should prioritise as every platform becomes a video platform.

Monday Dec 08, 2025


Google Pixel’s Head of Partner Marketing B2B, Yondjé Choi Cornez, joins John Horsley to explore global partner ecosystems, cultural intelligence and building a DTC Korean nutrition brand alongside a major tech career.
 

Monday Dec 08, 2025

Senior Director of Marketing at Pantheon, Mitali Israni, joins host John Horsley to unpack revenue marketing, partner ecosystems and why AI is the “new paintbrush” for modern marketers.

Wednesday Nov 26, 2025

San Francisco 49ers EVP Marketing Stephanie Dittmer Rogers dives into the craft of fan experience - from in-stadium entertainment to global growth and the brand philosophy guiding one of the NFL’s most iconic teams.

Tuesday Nov 25, 2025


Apply Digital’s Dennis Claus, Strategy Lead EMEA, explores how brands can turn customers into fans. From sports franchises and global consumer brands to AI, personalisation and the “three Es” of change, Dennis shares a pragmatic view on building digital ecosystems, measuring fandom, and staying focused on what really matters in a world of constant hype.
 

Tuesday Nov 25, 2025


ANA’s Greg P. Licciardi, VP Sponsorships & Partner Programs and author of The Holy Grail of Marketing, breaks down his “Holy Grail” framework for modern marketing. From Wendy’s, Harry’s and e.l.f. to AI-driven personalisation and brand purpose, Greg shares how to align the right person, message, timing, environment and outcome – whether you’re a global CMO or a startup watching every dollar.
 
 
 

Tuesday Nov 25, 2025


This episode features Dennis Buchheim, Global Head of GTM for Adtech/Martech, Communications, Media & Entertainment at Snowflake. Dennis brings decades of experience from Yahoo, Microsoft, Meta and IAB Tech Lab to unpack the future of data, AI, identity and measurement - and what the next era of advertising will really look like.
 

Tuesday Nov 25, 2025

Jay Prasad, CEO of Relo Metrics, unpacks how AI and computer vision are transforming the way brands measure sponsorships, fan attention and cultural moments across sport, streaming and entertainment. A look at the shift from logo slaps to real, data-driven impact.

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