The Business of Marketing is the podcast of marketing intelligence. John Horsley and Justin Cooke sit down with the people running marketing and commercial functions at the world's biggest brands, agencies and platforms. In-depth, conversations on the record. Published at businessof.co.
Episodes

Wednesday Apr 22, 2026
Wednesday Apr 22, 2026
Recorded live at Advertising Week Europe, John Horsley speaks with Minter Dial about empathy, trust, AI, and why businesses need to become more meaningful, more human and more self-aware in the way they lead and communicate.

Tuesday Apr 21, 2026
Tuesday Apr 21, 2026
Recorded live at Advertising Week Europe, John Horsley speaks with Martin Corke, Chief Marketing Officer at Bauer Media Outdoor, about the evolution of out of home, the rise of digital and programmatic, and why the channel still has one of the brightest futures in media.

Monday Apr 20, 2026
Monday Apr 20, 2026
Recorded live at Advertising Week Europe, Justin Cooke speaks with Jem Lloyd-Williams, Mindshare President and WPP Media CSO, about the changing nature of media, the role of AI, and why speed and strategic clarity are becoming critical in modern marketing.

Friday Apr 17, 2026
Friday Apr 17, 2026
Recorded live at Advertising Week, John Horsley sits down with Jen Brown. They discuss the limitations of traditional metrics, the importance of long-term brand building, and how marketers can remove friction across the customer journey to unlock real engagement.

Thursday Apr 16, 2026
Thursday Apr 16, 2026
Recorded live at Advertising Week Europe, Justin Cooke speaks with Jackie Ellenby about building distinctive brands, marketing unforgettable experiences, and why the strongest brands compete on uniqueness, not comparison.

Wednesday Apr 15, 2026
Wednesday Apr 15, 2026
Recorded live at Advertising Week Europe, John Horsley speaks with Chris Elsheki, Vice President of Demand Generation at Usercentrics, about privacy-led marketing, building demand engines, and why trust is becoming one of the most important performance signals in B2B.

Tuesday Apr 14, 2026
Tuesday Apr 14, 2026
Live from Advertising Week Europe, John Horsley is joined by Bryan Barletta, founder of Sounds Profitable, for a conversation on the business of podcasting. From creator economics to attribution, audience engagement and the future of the industry, this episode looks at where podcasting is headed next.

Monday Apr 13, 2026
Monday Apr 13, 2026
Recorded live at Advertising Week Europe, John Horsley sits down with Ben Smith, Director of Global Marketing at ReachDesk, to explore how marketing teams are building pipeline, aligning to revenue, and breaking through the noise.

Friday Apr 10, 2026
Friday Apr 10, 2026
Recorded live at Advertising Week Europe, this episode sees Justin Cooke in conversation with Andrew McCormick, former Chief Growth Officer at Dentsu X, unpacking how agencies are evolving, what really drives growth, and why outcomes, not outputs, now define success.

Thursday Apr 09, 2026
Thursday Apr 09, 2026
Recorded live at Advertising Week Europe, John Horsley speaks with Paul Anderson, Global Chief Creative Director and founding partner at Gravity Global, about the state of B2B creativity, the enduring power of brand, and why big ideas still matter.


